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Saturday, February 27, 2010

Quick Update: H-Alt Translation Complete

So, the biggest hurdle is now out of the way. All h-alt scenes are now translated, along with all known non-ero changes through the end of Unlimited Blade Works.

Sakura's route still needs to be checked for non-ero changes and sent to TakaJun for translation, but that won't be hard - just pretty boring going through the scripts one by one.

So how long until we get something releasable? ...I can't say, actually. After I'm done editing these translations, I'll hand them off to Waku Waku so he can rescript them into something compatible with the PC version. It's likely that not even WW would be able to provide a good estimate at this point.

268 comments:

  1. this may be a stupid question, but what is the h-alt translation all about? i mean, how does it differ from the regular h?

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  2. Its differs in the way that there will be no h at all. The Realta Nua version of FSN put alternate scenes in place of the ero scenes. This patch will replace the PC's h-scenes with the alt scenes provided by Realta Nua im pretty sure. Which in my opinion will make the story much more enjoyable.

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  3. @Michael: It puts a dragon in. A really big one. And strangely baddass-looking this time.

    And Sakura now wants to try out vapirism on top of everything else.

    Oh, and don't forget the random, short Ayako x Rin moment.

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  4. The day this gets released is the day I can finally give a copy of Fate/stay night to my sister as a home-made PC-RN-ENG installation DVD (hopefully this summer for her birthday, otherwise christmas it is)

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  5. personally i think the h-scenes are good- they revile a lot about the true nature of the characters.
    also they are good at doing what every hentai scene is trying to do...
    and i dont think fsn is a good game for kids, it has to much blood and violance

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  6. Note Réalta Nua also removes most of the blood.

    Also, it is fairly pointless to even be discussing this on an optional, separate patch, heh.

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  7. אוריון (what language is that in?),

    The issue is that my sister and family are quite to moderately conservative - there's no way I'd/we'd be able to knowingly give anything with hentai amongst each other and get away with it. (which is funny since I KNOW my sister and dad have looked at porn XD though none of us would ever admit it, especially with my mother...)

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  8. Xer - the only instance where any blood at all was removed is here - http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2382/a32comp.png

    Yeah, that was just a byproduct of the redrawing some CGs got. ...I'd go further and explain what exactly is and isn't different in RN, but I'll just write a blog post about it sometime soon instead of leaving it down here in the comments.

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  9. There's also Rin against the wall in Fate, and Sakura above Shinji in HF.

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  10. ~LoL~
    And that's just the obvious CGs.
    Anyway...

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  11. But, do we really need those "less bloody" CGs? They'll just be lower res anyway, and in the western world depictions of blood, gore, and violence aren't as taboo. (for example, many M-rated games in the US are 18+ in Japan)

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  12. Wow, one whole extra year...

    By the way, yeah, I don't know where you've been, but M-rated games are 17+.

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  13. I'm using the ESRB ratings as a reference (USA).

    My point is, even having that much blood could possibly even qualify for a T (teen) rating from the ESRB, since they're only still images. I mean their still the same images AFAIK, but lower-resolution and with less blood. And seeing blood isn't like seeing a boob or something, blood isn't exactly taboo, so is it really worth it?

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  14. Um... so am I. In the USA, M-rated games are 17+, as defined by the ESRB (from the official descriptor on the ESRB website, "content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older."). Most retailers ID people buying M-rated games and won't sell them to anyone under 17 (though it isn't law in most states), and anyone not following that policy can be fired (they often either laugh or roll their eyes when carding me, since it's obvious I'm an adult but they have to ask anyway, lol).

    As for your second... paragraph I guess you could call it, that's entirely your opinion. It really depends who you ask. Actually, many politicians are pushing for reform on violence in media greater than sex (they're often stupid and generally misinformed, and fail miserably as a result, but that's beside the point). Different people are different.

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  15. Well, I just hope that the non-H patch doesn't make the less-blood CGs mandatory.

    I guess one thing is that I don't seriously see the H-scenes as typical and realistically happening, but if you get stabbed and beat up massively you can bet there's going to be quite a bit of blood.

    So basically I see the depictions of blood as realistic, but the sex scenes as not. Therefore I would think it'd be a shame to lessen something portrayed realistically.

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  16. In 2 weeks, it'll have been 2 months...

    You're not dead, right?


    ...


    ...right?

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  17. Not dead, but not even close to done.

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  18. Dang...

    Now are we talking a few months, like August? A year-ish worth of time, like December?

    Or are we talking Duke Nukem Forever-time?

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  19. It could be any of them. Depends on if certain things end up working out.

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  20. Note: Any of those short of Duke Nukem Forever is faster than mirror moon's average rate.

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  21. Yeah, but mirrormoon was translating entire visual novels, and quite long ones too. This... not so much, especially since the translation is already done.

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  22. ^^; I'm no expert on this stuff, but I'd assume a lot of time goes into working with programs and such...

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  23. Exactly what I was referring to.

    Each time mirror moon got through with the translation and editing of the scripts for a route, and everyone did rejoice, it was always several months at least before they finished putting the patch together after that.

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  24. mirror moon never had to completely rewrite scripts, though. Waku Waku's the one with the tough job here - basically, he's trying to recreate scenes with tools that may not even be enough to do the job. Odds are we'll resort to messing with the engine so that the PS2 scripts are actually usable, and who knows how long that will take.

    Don't forget we have a life, too - honestly, my free time has been nil recently. I've got couple of hours of work left on UBW, and I haven't even touched HF. At least finals are coming up... I can probably pull off a marathon session or two and finish the job then.

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  25. How many percents have you done

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  26. Thanks!!!!!!!! you guys are my gods!!, now i can play again with new CGs and the voice patch that i find a long ago =D, realy this is the best!

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  27. Will it be needing the Realta Nua DVD in order for the patch to install?

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  28. @Jurist: Nope.
    Btw, @Hyarion: are u alive now?

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  29. Jurist: It'll probably be an option at some point, but it should be the only option.


    I'm nearly almost done with the Fate replacements (~90-ish%).

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  30. Here's a question, will this be adding pretty much everything from RN, maybe except the OP videos?

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  31. I'd like to have absolutely everything in 5, including op videos.

    And in my last post I meant SHOULDN'T be the only option.

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  32. This sounds really interesting and I hope that by the time I finally get the time to play this game (which will be in like...a really, really long time) I won't have to go through all the ero. I'm really not an H fan.

    -hugs- I hear hugs make work more pleasant.

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  33. Will the OP videos be optional, similar the H-alt stuff? Ya know, since they're actually REPLACEMENTS rather than just extra additions.

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  34. I'll probably do what the current OP patch does and use both, with the original playing first and then the RN version.

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  35. lawl, I guess that can work :P

    Though, how the heck would you be able to list FIVE videos on the movie page in the Extra menu?

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  36. So, from what I can tell, you're almost done with UBW and Fate. I suppose that leaves only HF left, pretty much?

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  37. No, just Fate. I haven't even stared on UBW. (H-wise)

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  38. But but but
    From Hyarion:
    "I've got couple of hours of work left on UBW"
    Or was that about something else?

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  39. Oh you meant like that. Then yeah.

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  40. (And it is possible for Duke Nukem Forever to come out sometime in this universe's timeline. Apparently they just have to sort out the legal issues.)

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  41. Quick, stupid question: What happened with that Rin summoning scene? Did that never get implemented?

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  42. I don't suppose someone can sum up what this patch adds/takes away? Like when they happen in the storyline?

    Thanks

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  43. Are you referring to the current patch or the future h-alt patch?

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  44. Could you talk about both please? =)
    Thanks

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  45. Well currently the only thing the patch "takes away" would be the old All Clear title screen. Everything else is really additions. It adds CGs, sfx, scene effects, and BGM. Where they show up is sort of everywhere, though I guess the most apparent ones would be in Heaven's Feel.

    The upcoming patch should hopefully have optional H-scene alternates, full RN bgm integration, any changes to any scenes, the rest of the CG, etc. Basically I'd like it to be a final version with everything.

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  46. That sounds awesome!
    Currently playing through FSN right now using the latest patch from here and I think I may have spotted a few of the extra CG's.

    Keep up the good work! =)

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  47. The project takes too much time. Will it be done soon?

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  48. I was wondering, what method are you using to upscale the 640x480 rN CGs to 800x600?

    (also, lossless sources ARE used, right?... right?)

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  49. I just enlarge and sometimes sharpen it in photoshop. And yeah the originals are png.

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  50. ...no really you're enlarging them. >_>

    I meant what resizing algorithm you're using. :P

    It's just that I recently discovered S-Spline Max (used in PhotoZoom 3) which I SWEAR is freakin magical (note that the "downsize" setting looks best for manga/anime styple images)

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  51. Uhhhh, Bicubic then, I guess?

    I looked into S-Spline Max, probably won't use that. It leaves some unsightly edges and in some cases loss of detail.


    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9836/lkjdfh.jpg

    Most noticably around Saber and Sakura's jawline, and the edges of Rin's clothing.

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  52. Hmm... that's interesting. Perhaps that's because of the downsize setting - did you try any others?

    Alternatively perhaps it's more designed for larger upscaling ratios? (it actually makes 300% upscaling look good O_o)

    Also, there's the S-Spline XL and plain S-Spline which apparently SOMETIMES actually look better.

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  53. Sorry to ask again, but is the Rin scene going to ever get implemented in the patch? If not, why not?

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  54. I just looked closer at your Photoshop vs S-Spline Max (downsize) comparison and the photoshop ones have considerably more "over sharpening" artifacts, while the S-Spline Max ones have more aliasing.

    Personally, I'd take more aliasing over "over-sharpening" artifacts any day, since the former looks better when scaled up to larger-res screens (at least IMO).

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  55. Also "S-Spline XL" (on downsize) is softer than "S-Spline Max", so it may provide a better result in your eyes (like the jawline jaggies aren't there),

    However it could even be TOO soft for your tastes (as seen from your "over-sharpening" artifacts)

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  56. OK, I know I sound like a broken record, but I figured out something about S-Spline Max's aliasing...

    It turns out, if you upscale to a higher res (say 1600x1200), and THEN downscale to 800x600, the aliasing is pretty much non-existent.

    Also upscaling to 3200x2400 instead of 1600x1200 seems to get rid of the aliasing a TEENY bit more, but at that point it may just be getting diminishing returns.

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  57. Hope I don't sound pushy, but...Can you give us an official status update on which route has what done and to what extent?

    (This is less on "I WANT TO SEE HOW FAR THEY ARE SO I KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE NAOW" and more like "I feel kinda uncomfortable since the last blog post was from February...")

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  58. Fate: 1 H-replacement done, the other almost done. Combed 80ish% of the scenes for other changes.

    UBW: H-replacement done. Combed 15%? of the scenes for other changes.

    Combing scenes isn't particularly difficult, but it takes quite a bit of time, which is something I haven't had a lot of recently. Really once I finish the Dragon scene everything else is easy. It's just down to when I have the time to work on it.

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  59. Waku-Waku, I just gotta say thanks to you and the rest of the team. You guys really are my heros :) I appreciate the time and effort, not to mention the blood and sweat that goes into your work. I support u guys 100%!

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  60. Honestly, I'm just waiting for full RN bgm integration in the next patch. Will be awesome with stuff like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjYGiFK0qTA ^^

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  61. Hi waku! I know you and hyarion are probably busy to be working on the patch, but I wanna ask: Will be a update before the end on the year?
    Thanks

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  62. Hah, really? I was expecting it to come out when Duke Nukem Forever did or later (no, really)

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  64. Even though as a joke (as in even without the "really") it has far less meaning now since it looks like Duke Nukem Forever might actually finally get a release. -_-

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  65. I actually meant the release date, hence the "no, really". It was sort of a double-meaning. :P

    But even so, it's not like it's been shipped yet. :P And even so if you still want something else taking forever, there's always Half Life 2 Episode 3.

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  66. Looking forward to this; I just got to the point where I can read well enough to read something like Fate/Stay night, although I don't want ero scenes and would like the voices in to assist me. This patch fits my desires perfectly. Although...>.>' Will this patch be (like the current realta nua voice patch in the mirror moon installer) an english only patch? ^.^""" Or will there be a way to keep the original japanese text? ^.^"""

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  67. Ya know, if you want to keep the original Japanese text but have the RN extras, you could just use the actual PS2 Realta Nua version...

    And if you don't have a Japanese PS2, the PCSX2 emulator happens to be able to run games directly from the disc. (however you'll need a pretty powerful PC) Yay for legal non-piracy emulation!

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  68. I tried using it, but I'm having issues as a linux user. >.>' It runs cleanly, and I can hear the sound, but for the video there's simply a white screen. Argh.

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  69. Then I'd recommend asking for help on the PCSX2 forums or something because you've got a better chance of getting that to work before this actually comes out and is compatible with the original Japanese.

    Alternatively, you could try running PCSX2 on ReactOS and/or ARWINSS, but there's a pretty good chance of it not working and you may have to rip F/sn RN to an ISO first (ROS's CD support may be incomplete)

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  70. I have a question: all new musics of realta nua are added, of are any dont?

    thanks for your work!

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  71. In the current version most the the BGM is added in some way, but they only play a fraction of the time they do in RN.

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  72. I've been really pushing the last few weeks, but I don't think it'll be done this month. Maybe January? I'll post an update on my progress when I start HF.

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  73. I can't wait!
    Thank you very much! you rock!

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  74. Glad to hear the RN/H-Alt patch is still in progress. Just want to say, Waku Waku you and Hyarion are legends among legends. And thanks for all your work so far!

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  75. btw i was curious, was this patch only different in h scenes? or maybe there will be released two version like complete h/not? ^^

    well either way is fine, i was wait for non h scenes so i can play it anywhere without feel bad to my parents :) *cheering waku waku*

    thanks for your hard work to make fate more enjoyable :)

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  76. We've gotten news on the patch progress, but how about news on the mirror-moon english patch version? THAT'S the one I'm most excited about and interested in.

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  77. Wow, really nice to hear you're still working on this. Can't wait for the update!

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  78. Didn't know this project was still alive - good to hear it is. Looking forward to the update.

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  79. Will installing this patch, or the upcoming (4.3?) patch affect the uncensor patch at all?

    Uncensor patch in question: http://www.sendspace.com/file/23bprr

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  80. The uncensor patch sucks balls, and is basically a big pack of REALLY BAD PHOTOSHOPS, but no, there is no conflict with the current patch (since the current patch doesn't touch any of the scenes it does). As for the upcoming patch, it depends if you get the H replacements or not, but, if you're trying to use that crappy uncensor patch, then you're obviously not, so there's no problem.

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  81. Thanks for the heads up, if that's bad I won't even bother with it - though I'm not really going for the H-replacements either. More interested in adding content than modifying what's already there.

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  82. Honestly I didn't think the patch was bad at all... I'd say try it for yourself, or at least find some of the uncensored CGs on the internet and judge for yourself.

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  83. Looking at a few of the uncensored CG I'll have to agree. It isn't really the high point of the VN, but I'll still say it's better than mosaic.

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  84. do you know where can i download the voice patch?

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  85. That fact that you somehow managed to find this patch before the very famous and easy to find voice patch puzzles me greatly.

    mirrormoon.org

    Or the first result in a Google search for "Fate/stay night patch"....

    And pay attention to the installer. Don't just skip through it with fast "Next" click like some noob, or it won't do you any good.

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  86. ok...so i did what you told me..but it asked me for the japanese realta nua patch. does that mean i have to have it first?

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  87. It's asking for the Japanese Realta Nua DISK, not patch. Basically, you have to have the PS2 version of the game for it to rip the voices from.

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  88. ok..i tried to install the latest realta nua patch but it didnt work. i followed all the instructions from the readme and renamed the patch files, etc. so, could you please tell me, if you know some thing, whats going wrong? or do i have to install the older patches first..

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  89. You can intall it without voices. It shouldn't ask for the Realta Nua disc if you do so.

    Or else there are plenty installations on the internet with voices and with README file how to do it.

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  90. i alreagy passed that part. what i mean was the realta nua patch v4.2 from this website.the one you're saying was about the english patch i think.

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  91. Ok then you're doing something wrong. Delete the patch, download it again and pay more attention for the instructions. There is some difference whether you have voiceless version or not.

    The patch works fine for me...

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  92. Oh hey, there's a new version of PhotoZoom, which means more S-Spline improvements.

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  93. Hmmm... just did some testing and S-Spline Max still has some aliasing issues (but less so due to the new sharpness adjuster).

    However, it turns out that S-Spline XL set to "downsize" looked REALLY good, with the aliasing just barely present to not at all.

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  94. So... Sorry if this is a bother but. You guys are still alive right? No offense. But it'd be pretty lame if I was following a group for a patch for nothing because the crew died. And if you are alive, then best wishes to you.

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  95. Well it's almost a year fron the last release. I don't want to ask when it will be done, I'm very very thankful you're doing this. So instead i ask, what's still left to be done?

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  96. Haha, it's good to hear. I was just worried since it's been a while since your last post. Glad to see you guys are okay. By the way, anyone else psyched they're making a Fate/Zero anime?

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  97. Early December Waku Waku had said we might start looking for the final patch sometime around January. Obviously I wouldn't expect anything, but if you're going to be following now is probably the time to do it. I imagine it's not horribly far off at this point.

    Greatly looking forward to it personally, been holding off playing Fate/Stay until its release.

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  98. They're making a Fate/Zero anime!? AWESOME!!!

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  99. Yeah, it was announced a couple months ago, and is currently set to air later this year. You get some pretty cool stuff sometimes when you follow the news.

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  100. Any chance of some word on the progress of this? Been almost a year since the last release so, just wondering.

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  101. Up above Waku Waku stated that they are still working on this project, however progress is still slow. I'm sure we'll hear more from them again once they've got something to show us.

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  102. I think here is my best bet.

    If I were to enjoy complete FATE route using this english patch releases here, do I have to own Fate/Stay Night RN or Fate/stay night (normal) would be enough? I don't mind little ero scenes.

    If I understand correctly, Réalta Nua is the non-ero version while earlier releases is uncencored. So, is there english patch for uncencored version?

    The ero scenes in earlier version have got to do anything with Fate storyline or not?

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  103. This is not an English patch, but rather an extra patch to add things from the Realta Nua version to the game which requires the English patch already be installed.

    The English patch is at http://mirrormoon.org/projects/fate_stay_night

    If you have just Fate/stay night (normal), you can still enjoy the whole thing, and even use the patch here with it, but you need Fate/stay night RN if you want voices (which the English patch already gives you, if you have RN).

    This patch adds other stuff from RN (besides the voices, which the other already does), but does not take anything away. And, actually, there exists no version yet which adds the ero scene replacements. The next version will give the OPTION to get rid of and replace the ero scenes, though.

    Strictly speaking, neither patch/version/whatever is uncensored. Mosaics, you know...

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  104. For one, this isn't even the English patch...for that you want http://www.mirrormoon.org/

    As for this patch, you don't need Realta Nua.

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  105. @Nintendo Maniac 64
    huuuu...h? this one isn't english patch? then what is this? @_@

    sso, all i need for englsih version is mirrormoon's FSN English v3.2> >> http://www.mirrormoon.org/projects/fate_stay_night

    p/s: ty for the reply ^^

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  106. This patch is the Realta Nua CG patch.... Aka. higher res images and new scenes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now they've got pretty much everything done in the most recent patch save for the non-H scenes... Which, based on how long they've been working on it, takes a lot of effort.

    This should be how to install:
    Pop in your Fate/Stay Night CD but don't run it yet.
    Go to http://www.mirrormoon.org/ and download the english patch and run it. You should follow the instructions of the installer, this will install the game from the CD you have inserted into your drive, as well as install the english patch.
    Optionally you may want the voices as well. This is where you need the Realta Nua disc... The instructions should be in the installer for this as well.
    Then you download the patch from this site, and follow the instructions on the readme.

    P.S. Sorry for the long looong post.

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  107. This patch adds the extra CGs and scenes that were present in Realta Nua but were not present in the original.

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  108. Any chance of a status update?

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  109. Yes, a status update would be nice.

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  110. Fate is pretty much done, and I'm up to the last day of UBW for music/other.

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  111. Pretty much 2/3 done then? So if that took about a year... then maybe you'll be done in about 6 months?

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  112. Not that long. I have nothing going on this summer, so once that starts my progress should really pick up. So maybe 2 months? Not that my estimates can be trusted.

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  113. Well h-alt for HF might be more difficult then UBW or Fate so I expect it to take a little longer.

    Could you release what you have when you finish UBW? :-)

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  114. ^How can the H-alt be difficult? It's just a port of the already-existing PS2 content.

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  115. @Nintendo:

    I'm guessing there's a difference in the coding...PS2 is not the same as a PC...I'm guessing it's similar to putting your PS2 disc in an Xbox and expecting it to work...After all, they both have a DVD-ROM drive. They are encoded differently...

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  116. I meant to add: the discs are encoded differently...

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  117. ^No duh you can't just port the code, but compared to what has already been done with last episode, this should be a piece of cake.

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  118. Fate's Dragon is actually giving me more trouble than Last Episode did, but more on point what I've seen of the HF alternates look really easy.

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  119. @Nintendo:

    What I meant is that in Fate and UBW there was just a few scenes to replace with h-alt ones. It gets more complicated in HF though, because there are a lot more things to replace.

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  120. hey guys
    how the project progess???

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  121. ^This is almost as bad as taking the kids on a roadtrip... Are we there yet? Try reading the latest comments, not like this was asked two weeks ago or anything.

    Looking forward to the finished product Waku!

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  122. Are we there yet?

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  123. are you guys still alive?

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  124. Read the comments before posting he said during summer or 2 months after maybe

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  125. Waku Waku, I think it would be a good idea for either you or Hyarion to make a thread for this patch at the new Beast's Lair forums at nrvnqsr.us.to. Just saying.

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  126. Hope you guys aren't dead =X. Looking forward to your next release.

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  127. While people have been saying to "read the comments", it HAS been over 2 months since Waku Waku last commented...

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  128. Waku Waku: Will you have more time during the summer? I just hope the patch gets actually released some day.

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  129. Encountered an error during the UBW route
    near the end when Saber encounters Assassin,
    near the end of the fight a error message pops up with a lot of japanese letters,
    the only english words are "Transex_ex".
    I'm using the voiceless version by the way.

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  130. May I ask : You planned in march 2 month of work . Just how is your ( amazing )work developped now ? Really , thanks , i'm following your really good work. ( A french guy , so ... Excuse my pitiful english x) )

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  131. Mm. I look forward to it. Though I am curious as to what remains. Last time I remember, you were cursing Fate's dragon.

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  132. Waku Waku and everybody on the team,

    I just wanted to thank you guys...you're doing a great job helping more people get into FSN (which is, need i say it, awesome!)...
    Keep up the good work and thanks again

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  133. Just wanted to say thanks to the team for their hard work, awesomesauce! A quick Q though, I've had FSN for a while now (always used R/N patch 2.0, lol) and never realized there have been updates ^_^ I can wait until the next patch comes out; I'm pretty patient, but when it does, will I have to remove "patch 7" in my folder or will the new patch just add to it? Also, will this new patch completely overwrite the H scenes or will there be a script option to choose which scene you want to see before progressing? If it ends up being too much work, I'll just run to the store and grab R/N for PS2 but it's still spendy here at 2500 yen =p

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  134. It'll replace the old patch.

    Not sure how H-scenes are going to be handled. Regardless though it'll be optional.

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  135. Ahh, thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it! Keep up the good work and poo poo on those who are impatient ^_^

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  136. I know you're not finished, but any chance you can possibly release what you've currently done? For those who're impatient or whatnot, i personally don't care (I can wait), i'm just wondering :)

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  137. Considering you had 2 routes last time you gave an unofficial progress report, it would probably help sate people's thirst to release those ahead. Of course, if there's some issue or problem in doing so that's ok too. Just keep up the good work.

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  138. I just want to give my encouragement and support to this patch and those who have worked so hard to make it a reality. I played through the whole VN with the latest patch (4.2), and I think the added RN content contributed significantly to my appreciation of the game. Good luck with your work on the next version! (Will it include the rest of the music from the RN soundtrack?)

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  139. Yeah, it'll have all the music.

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  140. Another anonymous showing some support for you guys. Can't wait for the next release.

    and that's excellent news Waku Waku, I was just listening to the RN's music(hence my visit) and it's good stuff.

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  141. I'm a bit confused as to what's already done and what's still in the works; could we get a checklist of all the RN stuff that is and isn't finished so far?

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  142. This Anti-H patch will probably be out around the same time as the Tsukihime remake, huh?

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  143. Well, it IS after Duke Nukem Forever!

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  144. But will it be before Half-Life 3?

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  145. Been looking forward to this patch for a while...
    Your efforts are most appreciated :D I will keep checking back!

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  146. Blast...I'm going on a trip on Friday for 10 days, and was hoping to try out the finished patch during then. (particularly because I'll be with 4 other people, so no sex scenes would be useful)

    I'm guessing that Waku Waku hasn't given any status updates since June because he's either working uber hard to get it done or he's being uber lazy. Confirm/deny anyone?

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  147. This project is pretty much dead... Not a word from Waku or Hyarion in months. So pitiful :(

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  148. They're probably just busy with other things. I don't really care when it's going to be released. Just hope for "someday".

    I actually kind of want to help them with it, although not sure how. I don't know japanese and my english is not very good either.

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  149. Still alive, it'll be done when it's done

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  150. phew... good to hear that..

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  151. So basically when Duke Nuk- err, when Half Life 3 comes out?

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  152. Nah, prob around the time they finish tsukihime 2

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  153. I'm just really really happy that it will be a big update, not just the H-free patch, we'll get all the songs, the prologue & a lot of tiny details! I really appreciate your work WakuWaku! Take your time to make the perfect Fate/Stay night experience! Thank you so much!

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  154. I was getting a little worried that this project had been dropped.

    However when I read that "it'll be done when it's done" I could not have been more reassured.

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  155. That was made by some random, anonymous poster, not someone affiliated with the project. It means nothing. This project is still as dead as can be, and despite what everyone (including myself) would love to think, we have NO word otherwise.

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  156. Well then... stalled?

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  157. YES.. an update since 3 months ago..hahar

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  158. You can dooooo it! ><
    :D

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  159. You know, it's possible for Waku Waku to not be dead but the project to be...

    At the same time, it's possible for something to be stalled without being dead.

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  160. Hahar, very funny.. sarcastic eh? Waku wont cum post here just to say his not dead ==

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  161. Hi all! im new to this site.. bt i really support what you ppl have been doing over this past few years.. You guys are the best! =D

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  162. Hi there. I'm also looking forward for the h-alt patch. Please keep up with the good work.

    BTW: Are there any problems implementing the patch or are you just to busy right now?
    Anyway, I hope you are still working on the patch.

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  163. They're busy because Gil keeps dropping in on them uninvited, stealing all of their drinks, and forcing them to do mundane tasks of no real importance.

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  164. Realta Nua coming to PC as a download edition.
    Just thought I'd drop the word here...

    http://www.typemoon.com/information/info.html

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  165. OMG! What will happen with this project?
    Will you transfer your translation on this new download edition?
    Will you still release the planned 5.0 version of the patch?

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  166. I plan on doing one more release, but with a real release looming I won't be finishing the H-scene replacements. It'll just be partial music, bug fixes, and some misc scenes I've done since the last patch. Maybe a separate patch to preview 2 H-scene replacements I have done? But that's probably it for me.

    My job was mostly just visuals so whether or not the translation is transferred is mostly up to Hyarion (I don't even have all of it), but I'm sure he will.

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  167. A PC RELEASE?! Bloody nora... what about those of us that bought the PS2 version just to add said extras to the PC version?!

    Gaahhh...why do Japanese companies love to milk consumers dry by never making a single "must have" definitive version? Instead they make like 3 different ones, each with their own benefits.

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  168. Wait a minute, according to siliconera, the PC RN port will NOT be the exact same as the PS2 version, so don't put this project on hold just yet Waku Waku.

    In particular, yow much you want to bet that it won't have the H-alt scenes?

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  169. from what some sources are saying,this port will be download-only and each route will be sold separately

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  170. I'm sad this is dead... I can read Japanese, but I wanted to give this to some people to read in English... without them thinking I was a pervert.
    The type-moon link above does basically say the PC release will be like Realta Nua. Basically, "Some portions are reedited from Realta Nua, but there is nothing new added." Which, to me, means only small edits, probably text edits to Realta Nua.
    It does also say it's been "Divided into routes" so I assume pg. is right about selling each route seperately... Bad move, if true.

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  171. I personally wanted to use the patch in conjunction with my personal imported copies of PC F/sn and RN so that my moderately-conservative sister and her friends would be interested in reading it. They've seen the anime, but wanted more. Guess that'll never happen like this...man, and I was hoping to make it a Christmas present this year!

    (by conservative, I mean they're Protestant, as in Christian - so ANYTHING pornographic just isn't going to fly)

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  172. There's always Carnival Phantasm and Fate/Zero if they want more... but F/Z has atleast 3 child rapists in it (Zoken, Caster, Caster's master)... Not exactly conservative.

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  173. I am just downloading it, but too bad the working on the project stopped, still thanks for everything

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  174. I just thought of something:

    Does this mean we'll be officially getting the RN CGs in a higher resolution than 640x480 now?

    Because that's probably the best part of this, in my opinion.

    ...Actually, what would be really nice is if they raised ALL the CGs to a nice new hi-res level. I'm sure they could if they really wanted, since they have the original source files lying around which we don't get to see. And they have Takeuchi himself lying around somewhere, too.

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  175. erm,can the admin (waku waku/ hyarion) make an announcement if this project is really going to be dead?

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  176. we can only hope they later decide to release physical copies of the whole game in a single disc.
    Since they are really going to make separate games for each route,they will have to change some things since we can't choose to be on those route through decisions anymore.

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  177. Once you make your next release (final?) and perhaps those preview patches...

    Maybe you could write up an example process of what you were doing, so that any aspect you feel needs work(H-alt scenes?), one could take up the torch?

    Anyway, glad to hear there's one more release still on the horizon :D

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  178. @pg: Ever played a downloadable game released in an episodic format before? That's not normally how it works.

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  179. what do you mean?In Realta Nua's case,you will automatically play each route separately,so it probably won't be possible to enter these routes through decisions.
    Besides,I heard the script has been slightly rewritten to retcon and add more refferences to Fate/Zero.

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  180. oh,and by the way,will you guys still finish this patch?because it's impossible to buy this game through download,it's Japanese IP restricted...

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  181. Important (emphasis on important) things in Fate/Zero which didn't have references to them in Fate/stay night were already few and far between.... Most of them were mentioned so briefly that many people didn't even take notice, though. Like that massive mid-series battle (the one which the anime left off right at the beginning of) which got a few random unimportant lines about it at the tail end of Saber's date in Fate, to give a more obvious example.

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  182. So... Waku's releasing everything they've done save for H-replacement... Afterwards it's up to Hyarion to release the H-replacement? I believe I got that right... Lemme know if I'm wrong.

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  183. Maybe? ┐(´~`;)┌
    I said the Hyarion thing because I don't have all of the translations and he wouldn't really need me if he wanted to do it.

    With that said, I'm not sure what's going to happen. I can't even find a PC version download anywhere. If one doesn't show up, I might be going back to working this.

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    1. I believe they may have put some copy protection in so the people over in Japan can't upload it. And it's likely they have proxies blocked as well, so you really have to be in Japan to get it. All we can really do is guess, though. One kinda has to actually be in Japan to really be able to check what's going on with it, after all.

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  184. I know that this entire project is a lot of work. And I am just curious of how much work has been done. Is the programming issue solved? transplanting from actual Realta nua to PC version requires PC version to add a bunch of new commands. (ex. @move) this step looks dauntingly difficult cuz PSP version doesn't have マクロ.ks in it.

    oh...what am I saying

    Hope you are not dead :)
    good luck

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  185. *kefka's fanatic tower music*
    Hyarion, Waku Waku!
    *huzzah!*

    Hyarion, Waku Waku!
    *huzzah!*

    Brothers, they will come! It has been prophesied!
    The patch will be delivered!!!
    *Cheers*

    We must not falter!
    We must bring out... the sacrifice!!!
    *Cheers*

    Waku...Waku...Waku...Waku...Waku...Waku...
    Hyarion...Hyarion...Hyarion...Hyarion...
    "Nooooooooooooooo!"

    Will Waku Waku and Hyarion make it?
    Will the patch be released in time?
    To be continued...

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  186. That has to be the worst comment I've ever seen in my life. Anyway, considering that the PC port of Realta Nua can't be played in English and, apparently, is split up into episodes, it seems obvious to me that it was just used as a convenient excuse to drop this project.

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  187. Really? I thought it was fairly amusing, albeit pointless. Granted, 6 was always my favorite Final Fantasy.

    And the "If one doesn't show up, I might be going back to working this" thing kinda kills the whole "convenient excuse to drop this project" thing. Of course, your judgment is clearly being affected by some sort of foul mood.

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  188. Note the word "might". Of course, your judgment is clearly being affected by some sort of naivety.

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  189. I have a question.What route do i have to play to unlock the Secret Fate Ending Scene (the one where Shirou and Saber meet in Avalon)?

    And does it still work with patch 4.1?

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  190. You have to play through all of them. It only becomes available once you got every one of five major endings. And I think it works with the 4.1 patch; I'm not sure of that but the comments after the 4.1 patch indicate that it does (but why wouldn't you install the newest one is beyond me).

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